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An Ode to Marmite

              The Joy of Marmite

I spread my Marmite sparingly, upon my buttered toast
Of all the things to put on bread, it's what I like the most.

Its flavour always feels warm, although it isn't hot
--Caustic like a chili sauce, it certainly is not

Approved by vegetarians, and good for your nutrition
Of what my Mum called savoury, the very definition.

Though made from lowly byproducts--leftover brewing ooze
It is so reminiscent of the finest of French stews

Such grand associations were surely what was meant
When so named by clever brewers from Burton on the Trent

Precisely what exquisite yeast do Marmite makers use
To lend such gourmet qualities to brewing residues?


                       -- A.R.D. Pepper, March 1993


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MARMITE is a Registered Trade Mark of/Est une Marque Deposée de
CPC International Inc.

Made in England/Preparé en Angleterre by/par CPC(UK) Ltd. Esher, Surrey

The MARMITE Company, Burton-on-Trent
From: arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca (A.R.D. Pepper [MFCF]) Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.new-zealand Date: 28 May 93 17:14:50 GMT
arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca, converted to html by witbrock@cs.cmu.edu

From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Cultural variations in Marmite? Date: 3 Jun 93 09:51:12 +1200 In article <1u053gINNq3g@pacific.cs.ubc.ca>, shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst) writes: > I have been arguing with someone from the UK and someone from New > Zealand about the composition of Marmite. My experience of Marmite (in > Canada and South Africa) is that it is a yeast and vegetable extract > (no meat content). They were strenuously arguing that Marmite > contained beef extract (and that the difference between Vegemite > and Marmite is that the latter had beef extract added to it). > > Does anyone have a handy bottle of Marmite to check the contents? Are > there differences in Marmite sold in different parts of the world? > >

As a matter of fact I have one here in my office...

It says.


                  MARMITE
               YEAST SPREAD
           A source of Vitamin B complex

on the front, and on the side...

Ingredients: Yeast, Sugar, Salt, Wheatgerm extract,
             Mineral Salt (508), Colour (Caramel), 
             Herbs, Spices, Vitamins (Niacin, 
             Thiamin, Riboflavin).

Nutrition Information
5g of this food contains  Vitamin B1 ..... 0.30mg
                          Riboflavin ..... 0.30mg
                          Niacin     ..... 2.60mg

And the clincher

    100% VEGETARIAN

Sorry no beef extract. Perhaps vegemite does? (Tastes foul enough to be beef extract from a certain anatomical part of the cow, but thats another story).

Oh yeah. Its great for preventing hangovers. A teaspoon of this, and a glass of water (No you don't mix them together. Drink the water and suck the marmite) will stop a hangover from occuring in the morning (You do this before you sober up :)

Hamish Marson, Computer Services, University of Waikato| hamish@waikato.ac.nz. Fax +64 7 8384066 | Computers are only Disclaimer: Remember. You heard it here first! | Human.....
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand Subject: Re: HANGOVER (Was: Cultural variations in Marmite?) In article <wg3Y3we00UhWA4Y4F5@andrew.cmu.edu>, mazz+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph D. Mazza) wrote: > > Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.new-zealand: 3-Jun-93 Re: Cultural > variations in .. by David E. Brown@hubcap.cl > > Back in my heavier drinking days, I found the best foil for a hangover > > was drinking a glass or three of water before going to bed. Of all the > > ways I've tried, this one seemed to be the most effective. Of course > > you will have to make a trip to the john during the night, probably.

Dehydration (metabolizing alcohol uses a lot of water) is definitely one of the contributors to hangovers, particularly if you are drinking hard stuff rather than beer. Other contributors are low blood sugar (alcohol interferes with the liver's blood glucose regulation function) and vitamin depletion. So some marmite (for the vitamins) spread on whole wheat bread (for the complex carbohydrates) and washed down with lots of water sounds like a sensible bed time snack. Even better, drink lots of water and gnash appropriately whilst imbibing. Of course in both cases, the more you are going to need it, as others pointed out, the less likely you are to think of it.

-Rich Haller University of Oregon, Eugene, OR, USA

In reply to the above...

From: mfaville@waikato.ac.nz Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british Subject: Re: HANGOVER (Was: Cultural variations in Marmite?) Followup-To: soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.british Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I have had varying degrees of success with the water-guzzling premptive hangover prevention technique, and I have come to the conclusion that the effectiveness of this method depends upon how much you sunk the night before.

It seems that I reach an alcohol saturation point beyond which any amount of water-drinking is useless - I still wake up with a grossly enlarged tongue superglued to the roof of my mouth, every mucus membrane in my body is dried and stretched to breaking point, and my brain is struggling to escape via either of my ears.

At this stage there are two strategies that might be employed:

  • (1) Promise never, ever, ever to touch the stuff again (that's alcohol, not water). If you have a nice hangover it will acknowledge your repentance and leave soon after.
  • (2) Ignore the bastard. It sulks for a while, but leaves soon enough.
  • With this research behind me, my rule of thumb now is that if after an evening of drinking if you can remember the water thing, do it. If not then .... well no worries. Also, if you do decide to eat marmite:

  • (a) Use some sort of utensil to get it out of the jar, not your tongue - flatmates prefer this.
  • (b) Try and remember to swallow it properly, as not only will it not digest very well lodged in your mouth, but your pillowcase (assuming you are at least in the vicinity of a bed) will bear the marks forever.
  • Marty, Waikato University.


    Subject: Re: Cultural variations in Marmite? From: barryp@munin (Barry Phease) Date: Mon, 31 May 1993 21:53:35 GMT David Churcher (davec@wsti.demon.co.uk) wrote: > In article <1u053gINNq3g@pacific.cs.ubc.ca> shaze@cs.ubc.ca writes: > >... They were strenuously arguing that Marmite > >contained beef extract (and that the difference between Vegemite > >and Marmite is that the latter had beef extract added to it). > There is no beef extract in Marmite; this is an urban legend that > Sanitarium have gone to great lengths to deny (in the UK, anyway). > -- > davec@wsti.demon.co.uk (David Churcher)

    Surely the original marmite was the blackened marrow from cooked bones. I agree though that modern stuff sold as marmite is completely vegetarian compatible.

    To add another name to the debate. I discovered a Swiss? variant call Cenovit. Not perfect but a reasonable substitute (better than Vegemite anyway). Anybody else know anything about this.

    [No it isn't, it's cenovisse - Michael]

    Barry Phease | "If aught I have said is truth, that truth | shall reveal itself in a clearer voice, and in BarryP@otago.ac.nz | words more kin to your thoughts." | - The Prophet: Kahlil Gibran

    Alan Brown writes on: Cultural variations in Marmite

    From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.new-zealand Subject: Re: Cultural variations in Marmite? mcrae@husc7.harvard.edu (Andrew McRae) writes:

    (The main differences between Marmite and Vegemite are that the latter is Australian and tastes awful.)

    Careful - you're treading on almost religious issues here.

    There are 3 types of yeast extract in NZ/Australia - vegemite, marmite and promite

    They're basically all the same, BUT.

  • Marmite is sweeter than vegemite
  • Promite is sweeter then marmite
  • They're all extremely salty tasting.
  • Speaking as somone brought up on vegemite, I find the difference between vege/marmite is that marmite has a more pronounced caramel taste. (That's what the colouring is, BTW)

    Vegemite eaters will eat marmite at a pinch, but marmite eaters tend not to be able to stomach vegemite. Promite is a relatively recent introduction to me, and I've never met anyone who's eaten it as a kid. It leads to a wierd situation where we have 2 large jars of vegemite/marmite in the house, plus a small one of promite for occasional use.

    One last thing. Due to a couple of recessive genes I can't taste bitter, so my perception may be skewed a bit. (Bitrex? What's that?)

    (Favourite drink - bitters and tonic. LOTS of bitters...:-)


    dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:

    Following up on my own posts....

    Ingredients:

    Vegemite: (Kraft General Foods NZ Ltd)
    Yeast extract, salt, malt extract, colour(caramel), vegetable flavours, vitamins (niacin, thiamine, riboflavin)
    Marmite: (Sanatarium Health Food Company, NZ)
    Yeast, sugar, salt, wheatgerm extract, mineral salt (508) colour(caramel), herbs, spices, vitamins (niacin, thiamin, riboflavin)

    It's also got a small note under the ingredients: "100% vegetarian" (but then, what do you expect from a company owned by the 7th Day Adventist church?)

    Promite: (Masterfoods of Australia)
    Vegetable protein extract, sugar, yeast, natural colour(caramel) salt, thickener (Wheat starch), emulsifier (Glycerol monostearate) spices, added vitamins, water
    Other countries' versions may vary....

    Alan Brown dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz


    More of the poem

    In case you like your Marmite more thickly spread, here's another verse of the poem, kindly sent in by its author:
    I spread my Marmite sparingly, upon my buttered toast
    Of all the things to put on bread, it's what I like the most.
    
    Its flavour always feels warm, although it isn't hot
    --Caustic like a chili sauce, it certainly is not
    
    Not sour nor bitter, so subtle tasting generally,
    But it has a pungent salty side which can my downfall be
    
    For if through too much eagerness I heap it far too thick,
    I will regret my foolishness, as I get nearly sick
    
    Then for a month, or even more, I will not touch the stuff
    Until my fading memory emboldens me enough
    
    Such occasional indulgence provides an education;
    The key to true enjoyment is always moderation.
    
    
     -- A.R.D. Pepper, March 1993
    

    Marmite Alternative Found!

    One of our readers informed us that you can get a brand called "Our Mate" which tastes just like Marmite, but not as sweet, or as our reader put it The big difference is that it doesn't have that horrible caramel flavour that all the other do!

    You can get this amazing product at Woolworths. It should also be noted here that this variation of Marmite would seem to suit people recently arrived from the UK and already adapted to the Marmite there!!




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